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PeteH
post Mar 12 2012, 2:45 AM
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Ironcross changed the rules for his advantage few hours before the first playoff round starts.

This is bullshit. Rules shouldn't change after the season starts and doing that at this point without asking anyone is beyond low.





 

 
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SparksALot
post Mar 12 2012, 4:57 AM
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Really? What was changed exactly?




 

 
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PeteH
post Mar 12 2012, 5:07 AM
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QUOTE (SparksALot @ Mar 12 2012, 2:57 PM) *
Really? What was changed exactly?

Max moves from 15 to 4. Guess who has averaged under one move per week.





 

 
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SparksALot
post Mar 12 2012, 5:14 AM
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You sure it was IC who changed it, or is it not something that Yahoo (or whatever service is being used) does for the playoffs?

As far as moves, does that mean like adding and dropping players, or simple roster moves (like starting one guy and sitting another, etc)?




 

 
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PeteH
post Mar 12 2012, 5:26 AM
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You sure it was IC who changed it, or is it not something that Yahoo (or whatever service is being used) does for the playoffs?

As far as moves, does that mean like adding and dropping players, or simple roster moves (like starting one guy and sitting another, etc)?


It's adding/dropping players.

This was posted by Ironcross 10 hours ago so I assume it was his decision:

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Rule change for the PLAYOFFS...
Ironcross (Can-Am Connection)
10 hours ago


MAX moves changes from 15 moves per week to 4 moves per week.

Now being a manager means a bit more. Make your moves wisely.



The reasoning is brilliant. With 4 moves per week there's less managing to do and that fits his team well. My strategy has been to find hot players and kick them out when the hot streak ends.

If everyone thinks this is ok, I'll quit.






 

 
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Simedog
post Mar 12 2012, 3:17 PM
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I don't agree with unannounced rule changes like that. I think 15 was too high to begin with but that aside, the way this was done comes across as "this is my game, play by my rules or else"... schoolyard stuff. I'd have thought this would've been handled a little better to be honest.






 

 
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PeteH
post Mar 12 2012, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE (Simedog @ Mar 13 2012, 1:17 AM) *
I don't agree with unannounced rule changes like that. I think 15 was too high to begin with but that aside, the way this was done comes across as "this is my game, play by my rules or else"... schoolyard stuff. I'd have thought this would've been handled a little better to be honest.

I agree that 15 was too high, but we've played according to those rules since the beginning and no one complained about it publicly.

This is what he's afraid:






 

 
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Ironcross
post Mar 13 2012, 11:20 AM
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01laugh.gif Comical to say the least. I had other managers complaining to me behind the scenes and then one of the ones that was complaining threw me under the bus. no big deal. Anyone who knows me knows I ALWAYS go with league majority, even if I don't agree with it.


I agree he was within the rules but what he was doing was still lame and cheap, adding and dropping players just to get more stats and playing time. As far as the number of moves I made during the season. I didn't need to make that many moves cuz I know what I'm doing in the first place.


Pete did beat me once, yah!! I lost 4 times in 21 weeks, yeah Pete, you da man!



The majority of managers wanted it changed back so it is and was. The playoffs are going to be a joke with everyone jockeying to get the most playing time possible. Next year instead of making it easy for people it will be challenging and then people will bitch, moan, and quit. Also, I'll make a roto league next year (then Shawn will play too).



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PeteH
post Mar 13 2012, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE (Ironcross @ Mar 13 2012, 9:20 PM) *
I agree he was within the rules but what he was doing was still lame and cheap, adding and dropping players just to get more stats and playing time.

Think what you want, but I didn't go for maximum appearances. I'm aware it would've been possible, but I was way too lazy to do it.

If I dropped someone on friday/saturday and he had a game that weekend, I made sure that the new player had also a game that weekend so I wouldn't lose a game. If I dropped someone at the beginning of the week, I never checked how many games he or the new player had coming that week.

I might have gained few extra games with my adding/dropping but I missed several times more games the days I slept on my team and had players on bench.

If there's a way to count appearances on each position for the whole season, I'm willing to bet that your players actually played more than mine.

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chewy
post Mar 13 2012, 2:12 PM
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I leave the league and this is what happens.

Leave it to a Canadian.

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PeteH
post Mar 13 2012, 11:03 PM
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IC (and others): I put a bet offer on the yahoo board.

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IC said that he got several complains from other managers about my actions and some of you seem to believe that I made top four only because I switched my players to gain more appearances.

If anyone (you can also pool your money if you want) wants to put your money where your mouth is, I'm willing to bet that I didn't have the most player appearances in this league.

We'd need a reliable escrow and judge(s). We'd probably have to pay something for the judge(s), so the minimum bet is 1000 USD.


Now you put your money where your mouth is.





 

 
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PeteH
post Mar 14 2012, 10:48 PM
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Thought so.

Bet offer is off. The one(s) who thought about getting free money and started to count, please post up the results.






 

 
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Ironcross
post Mar 14 2012, 10:56 PM
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Stop running your yap before I make you look stupid and take you up on your bet.



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PeteH
post Mar 14 2012, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE (Ironcross @ Mar 15 2012, 8:56 AM) *
Stop running your yap before I make you look stupid and take you up on your bet.

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So what's the count.

The reason the bet's off is that I was willing to bet when no one knows for sure. Now the only way to get action is that someone counts every appearance and notices that I actually have the most.

If I can't win and can lose, it's -EV for me even though most likely I don't have the most appearances.

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Ironcross
post Mar 14 2012, 11:32 PM
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You have the most in the league. I have the second most. I'll post the details in the morning for you if you like.


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Ironcross
post Mar 14 2012, 11:35 PM
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And you have almost 100 more acquisitions than the next manager.


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PeteH
post Mar 14 2012, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE (Ironcross @ Mar 15 2012, 9:35 AM) *
And you have almost 100 more acquisitions than the next manager.

Please post the details, 'cos that sounds unpossible. It's almost 5 more per week.





 

 
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Ironcross
post Mar 15 2012, 6:28 AM
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I'm only doing the playoff teams (the non playoff teams are even less)

You-

F & D- 1679 games played
G- 197 games played

Total- 1876

# of moves- 131



Me-

1598
215

1813

#- 17



Hockeytown

1605
173

1778

#- 35 (2nd in league)



Pain-

1638
196

1834

#- 32



Sime-

1619
151

1770

#- 11



Wildcats-

1626
141

1767

#- 16




I'm not even second in the league. wink.gif


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PeteH
post Mar 15 2012, 7:14 AM
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Well I'll be damned. I'm glad no one had the balls to take the bet without counting first.





 

 
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Ironcross
post Mar 15 2012, 12:47 PM
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I was tracking it before I made the rule change. So if I was a giant dick, I wouldn't have said anything and taken you up on your bet.


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PeteH
post Mar 16 2012, 2:03 AM
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QUOTE (Ironcross @ Mar 15 2012, 10:47 PM) *
I was tracking it before I made the rule change. So if I was a giant dick, I wouldn't have said anything and taken you up on your bet.




You sneaky bastard! I was dead serious about the bet as I guesstimated there's more than 50% chance of someone else having more apparearances than me.

And talking about luck. Looks like there's a good chance you'll be fighting for the 5th place with me. That's the thing with head to head -league. One bad week can ruin your whole season.





 

 
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